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Post by swanleygill on Jul 22, 2014 10:54:55 GMT 1
Just wondering really out of pure curiosity but does anyone know the highest wage we have paid a player and who. Would it have been Asaba, Taylor, Jackson, King, McDonald, Hess, Smith. Id be surprised if we have ever paid over 3-4k a week for anyone, But of course i could be very wrong, hence the question Anyone any ideas
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Post by mrpthegillsfan on Jul 22, 2014 12:35:07 GMT 1
rod wallace - not sure of the exact figure but seafrance paid a good proportion of it
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Post by swanleygill on Jul 22, 2014 13:04:16 GMT 1
rod wallace - not sure of the exact figure but seafrance paid a good proportion of it I forgot all about Rod Wallace, actually had a really good scoring record for us, when he played, which was hardly ever due to injury. What you reckon he was on 5k a week
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Post by ldb30 on Jul 22, 2014 14:41:04 GMT 1
Iwan Roberts would have been some serious wack!!, another Hasbeen of coarse looking for a retirement fund with wallace!!
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Post by swanleygill on Jul 22, 2014 14:46:42 GMT 1
We know that Mr Scally pays himself equivalent to roughly 5k a week
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Post by Big_Al on Jul 22, 2014 15:56:50 GMT 1
Paul Smith was on £235,000 a year in the Championship
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Post by swanleygill on Jul 22, 2014 15:59:36 GMT 1
Paul Smith was on £235,000 a year in the Championship Im not even going to ask how you know that specific number lol
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Post by swanleygill on Jul 22, 2014 16:00:42 GMT 1
Paul Smith was on £235,000 a year in the Championship Im not even going to ask how you know that specific number lol
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Post by Big_Al on Jul 22, 2014 16:36:07 GMT 1
Paul Smith is a good friend of mine and wouldn't mind me divulging what the going rate was for a top class Championship midfielder at the time. Voted POY 3 times and pretty sure our fans who watched him felt he was worth every penny
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Post by swanleygill on Jul 22, 2014 16:49:42 GMT 1
Paul Smith is a good friend of mine and wouldn't mind me divulging what the going rate was for a top class Championship midfielder at the time. Voted POY 3 times and pretty sure our fans who watched him felt he was worth every penny Very much so, id have to agree
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 17:16:24 GMT 1
Understand Hessie was on around £5k a week as well back in the championship days. Also Crofty was frozen out by Stimson as he had a clause inserted into his deal that his wages would double if he won an international cap. I believe that put him on around £5k a week
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Post by johnknee on Jul 22, 2014 23:50:43 GMT 1
Understand Hessie was on around £5k a week as well back in the championship days. Also Crofty was frozen out by Stimson as he had a clause inserted into his deal that his wages would double if he won an international cap. I believe that put him on around £5k a week Your tone makes it sound as if that was fact - howver, on the basis that Crofts made his full international debut for Wales in 2005 - a couple of years before Stimson was manager - then it improbable that Stimson froze him out because of that. I know Stimson wasn't the most agreeable of people, but lets not blame him for things that he clearly had nothing to do with. From my memory of events, Stimson took the captaincy off him after a string of poor performances, Crofts threw his toys out of the pram and went on loan at Peterborough (who didn't ask to extend the short term loan) and briefly at Wrexham where the fans were unimpressed with his form. From the last time this topic came up, I worked out that the 15 games Crofts played for us in his final season, we picked up points at a rate of about 1.48 per game, but once he went out on loan elsewhere, form picked up to 1.65 and we went on the run to promotion - hence proving Stimson was right to drop him. Off course, there are those who blame Stimson for distroying his form while ignoring the fact he had looked stale and poor for several seasons when he realised he was surrounded by dross and promotion to the Championship was unlikely.
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Post by swanleygill on Jul 23, 2014 1:18:19 GMT 1
Johnknee i agree that Crofts did deserve to be dropped, did throw his toys ect..... and stimson was not all to blame for this BUT your first few words above are MADNESS 'your tone makes it sound as if that was fact' come on, really, you can't have a tone when writing in text unless you write something like 'swanleygill shouted in a angry tone' Their is no tone in what hessisgod is saying. A schoolboy error from you on this occasion Johnknee
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 7:33:21 GMT 1
I know you always jump on at the very mention of Stimson! I still can never understand why anyone would defend him after his disastrous spell of 50 players signed, money wasted and 2 relegations. However, the point I was making was that Crofty being accidentally on 5k a week in league one (which wasn't Stimson's fault) was a large part of the reason Stimson froze him out. Had Stimson managed the situation better, we might have got a decent fee for him like we did with Jack Payne
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Post by johnknee on Jul 23, 2014 7:52:10 GMT 1
Johnknee i agree that Crofts did deserve to be dropped, did throw his toys ect..... and stimson was not all to blame for this BUT your first few words above are MADNESS 'your tone makes it sound as if that was fact' come on, really, you can't have a tone when writing in text unless you write something like 'swanleygill shouted in a angry tone' Their is no tone in what hessisgod is saying. A schoolboy error from you on this occasion Johnknee "Also Crofty was frozen out by Stimson as he...." I'd say that was written in such a way that didn't suggest it was merely speculation. Where I do defend Stimson is that unlike other people I don't think he is the worse manager we ever had who did nothing good at all. I cannot defend his personality and the fact he was happy to antagonise the fans. But some would gloss over the fact he did manage to also get us promoted with the same team that Sir Hessenthaler failed with a year later. Hess resigned all the players who were out of contract except Miller. There is a radio clip of Hess stating he had been keeping an eye on the Gills and had a good idea of who to keep and not. As for "his disastrous spell of 50 players signed, money wasted" then it should be noted he actually made a transfer profit on the players he signed and then had sold. I thought Stimson in some aspects was unlucky for the second relegation - if Simon King hadn't crocked himself then I am certain we would have stayed up. He was the one quality defender we had and wasn't easily replaced. The only time we were actually in the bottom 4 was after the final match of the season. I defend Stimson where I feel he is unfairly blamed for things and try to see the good and bad about each of our managers. Some people only see the bad in Stimson and believe everything bad about him even if the facts don't support the view. And thinking of which: However, the point I was making was that Crofty being accidentally on 5k a week in league one (which wasn't Stimson's fault) was a large part of the reason Stimson froze him out. Had Stimson managed the situation better, we might have got a decent fee for him like we did with Jack Payne Which ignores the fact Crofts had already indicated his intention of letting his contract run out at the beginning of his final season. He reportedly had also indicated he wasn't interested in a permanent transfer mid season as that would restrict him to a club that Gillingham could agree a fee for. And how much do you think we could have sold him for in January if Crofts was prepared to go anyway??? Payne was still under a long term contract, and even if he was in his final year Payne was under the age of 24 and so we would have got a tribunal decided fee if nothing else. I simply think it is wrong to blame Stimson for not getting a fee for Crofts etc when he had no control over the situation.
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