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Post by swansgills888 on Oct 26, 2014 0:34:42 GMT 1
Gillingham need to do the right thing for the club and fans before it turns nasty. Taylor is showing all the hallmarks of a manager who is losing the dressing room. Just accept the situation Peter, that you are not up to managing this club because most of the fans have lost faith in you leave now to avoid any further damage to your dwindling name.
You are out of your depth and you know it.
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Post by sunnyboy on Oct 26, 2014 1:10:23 GMT 1
Bit harsh, Swansgill. I don't think he is out of his depth managing Gills as he has managed at higher levels and coached England U-21's, right? So many elements make a successful manager and I don't think PT has all of them. Think we can question his team selection and game strategy and maybe also decisions re players coming in and going out. Those are really important things and weakness there could certainly lead to his removal. I doubt that Hessie is much help as his asst mgr and maybe they should recruit a wiser head there. Two more losses without a win ought to be enough for Scally to make a move IMO.
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Post by swansgills888 on Oct 26, 2014 1:37:40 GMT 1
I have 10 years experience playing championship manager on pc. I'm fed up with all the poor performances and this is reflected by Taylor s inability to get this side playing. Actual fact this team is worst than last season. I know when it going to happen like I did when stimson and hess left and Taylor going that way now. Taylor will be managing Canvey Island before Xmas. Scally is short changing us and we better wake up. We were very lucky to get a draw today when we should have been 2 nil down at half time. The post and crossbar have cone to Taylor rescue over the last few weeks. There is no way we are going to beat Fleetwood next week. So Taylor will be gone hopefully by then. I cannot see anyway forward under this boss and things will get better once a new boss comes in , don't want hess again.
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Post by swansgills888 on Oct 26, 2014 1:39:31 GMT 1
That 10 years experience playing championship manager must give me a chance of being boss of this micky mouse set up. Lol
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Post by muppet on Oct 26, 2014 9:14:50 GMT 1
Not sure most of the fans have lost faith as I as once again impressed with how the rainham end kept going even when we conceded. Around me there were only the usual 1/2 individuals moaning, but they have been the same for the past 15 years and blame the club for everything including the economy and weather!!
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Post by svwhat on Oct 26, 2014 9:24:45 GMT 1
Gillingham need to do the right thing for the club and fans before it turns nasty. Taylor is showing all the hallmarks of a manager who is losing the dressing room. Just accept the situation Peter, that you are not up to managing this club because most of the fans have lost faith in you leave now to avoid any further damage to your dwindling name. You are out of your depth and you know it. Swanny give it a rest. We had that debate last week and you gave your view then. Nothing changed between then and now.
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Post by terryjolleysboot on Oct 26, 2014 10:37:19 GMT 1
Why should Swanny give it a rest Taylors poor league record speaks for it self! just three of Taylors 9 English league clubs where he has mamaged Hull,Wycombe and Gills (first time roundvwhere he had the remnants of T Pulis's team) did he have any success!nl
Bradford ,Stevenage,Brighton,CPalace,Southend,Leicester(where Stan Collymore gave a negative insight to his yes man mentality in his biography) he record was poor and he is heading down those lines with Gills unless something is done we will be floundering along with Crewe for certain relegation! Taylor must go who do we bring in here's a name just up the road at Braintree town Alan Devonshire making a reasonable effort on a tight budget!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 12:54:37 GMT 1
He was promoted at Brighton! What an abject failure! Everyone is welcome to an opinion, but it'd be good if the doom mongers actually bothered to check facts and stopped spouting such obvious tosh.
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Post by mistert on Oct 26, 2014 14:12:22 GMT 1
Most of the people who want change seem to want more experience on the pitch. So in answer to "How long do we wait?" I'd be inclined to say at least until Douglas Loft is back in the side.
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Post by gillsjan on Oct 26, 2014 15:05:10 GMT 1
I am prepared to see this season out. I have enjoyed watching some of the matches this year although disappointed with the scoreline. Like others I appreciate that it will take time to see results from these youngsters . Over the last 10 years or more, we have seen a roller coaster of going up and down in the league and bringing in older players often suffering from recurring injuries. It's been, same old same old, and I have found that very frustrating. This year we are trying something new. No I don't want to see us go down and as a previous writer said I would happily take 20th position at the end of this season. Football is about passion and its obvious from some of the comments that there is a lot of passion out there at the moment.
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Post by swanleygill on Oct 26, 2014 15:17:38 GMT 1
I think the annoying things gillsjan is yes we are trying something different, we do have a lot of youngsters but at the minute we are getting battered, Ok we got a point against Crawley and Rochdale, but in truth, both could and probably should have been defeats. yet both are against teams we should be aiming to beat, As i said in a earlier post, having young hungry players is ok, but if, if we are relegated, how many of those young players will still be here next year, and 1 win in 10 is well......... not something one can ignore. I still have faith (just) that we can scrap to safety, but the realist in me, the person who see's things for what they are, is seeing a not very rosey picture, young players or not.
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Post by statotheblue on Oct 26, 2014 16:50:55 GMT 1
There are some signs of the end of the tunnel so to speak.The return of Loft perhaps teaming up with Doughty who looked really good yesterday.A more solid looking midfield in the second half.The return to form of Dack who looked on the money after a very poor spell of games.Egan and Legge both getting forward well at set plays.Pritchard finally showing signs of being a descent player.The return with any luck of at least one or two from injury. Kedwell looking fitter.Yes there are still things wrong but we have a lot to be thankful for.Some many have joined the half empty doom club. But I still prefer to look long term and feel we are at the very difficult start of a new era for the club.Stick with it and we too could enjoy success drive some of our promising young players away and we will go backwards quickly as a club.They are our future and like the Burnley's of this world it can be done but only if we work together as a club.To be frank I met up with a few Scunny fans a few weeks ago there tone and enjoyment before the game with us was far different.They were look forward and upwards not backwards into the dust as some of our seem to enjoy doing.
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Post by bert on Oct 26, 2014 17:53:21 GMT 1
Pritchard finally showing signs of being a descent player Read more: gillsconnected.proboards.com/thread/5983/long-wait#ixzz3HGeyVg1LI thought that you were being positive until I read that you think Pritchard is going down, presumably with us? As I have said before I believe that we have many talented players in our squad and certainly man for man better than last season's. I for one welcome the experiment with youth but that experiment can only succeed with proper coaching and clear guidance from the management team. Half of the game against Preston was an improvement and similarly against Crawley. Perhaps the view expressed by many (including myself) that the pre-season was un-professional and that the players were not properly prepared for the season is being reflected in the number of injuries we are now seeing. Certainly for all of his faults you would have to agree that Martin Allen's players were always fit and usually played for 90 minutes and not 45. OK current training sessions are probably demanding, but it is too late now. Taylor keeps on spouting about how he wants the team to play football on the ground. Why then did his goalkeeper (and I don't blame Nelson because he was doubtless acting on instructions) hoof the ball down the ground for the whole of the second half against Preston and all of the first half against Crawley? Perhaps Mr. Taylor has become a bit confused about where the ground actually is. When the ball goes out of play for our throw ins why do our players slowly walk over to where the ball has gone out of play and wait until the opposition has had time to organise before throwing the ball down the line for Kedwell or Norris to try to head on. I accept that there may occasionally be some variety nearer to the opposition goal, good grief Hoyte actually tried to throw the ball into the penalty area a couple of times on Saturday. There are invariably a few occasions when a nearer player could grab the ball and throw it to someone else before the opposition have organised but not with this Taylor team. When you watched properly coached teams players tend to move to create space and not stand around waiting for the same thing to happen each time. Why is it that every single corner is hoofed into the middle in the hope that someone (and yes I know it worked once on Saturday) can get on the end of it. Surely a "footballing team" would be coached (and I don't mean getting on a bus if you happen to read this Mr. Taylor) to try various types of corner during the course of a game, a short corner for example. What happened to the occasional dummy/step-over corner or a variety of it that we used to use. (And I don't mean the two dummies sitting in the dug-out). I was under the impression that as a "footballing team" we could look forward to some sort of attacking football. Why then when we won a free kick 10 yards into the opponents half in the first half did we have three players standing round the ball deciding who was going to take the kick and three only players in front of the ball? Surely a properly managed team would know what they were supposed to do from every given area of the pitch. Perhaps Loft is designated to take all of the kicks etc. and the Management simply "forgot" to change the tactics whilst he was un-available? When Priestfield was something of a fortress visiting teams used to sit back and defend giving us more opportunities to attack. Thanks to the unimaginative and defensive attitude visiting teams now know that the points are there for the taking and sadly they are right. I may be mistaken but I was under the impression that our first shot on target (i.e. not a header) that needed saving by the opposition keeper on Saturday did not arrive until the 89th minute! NB Dack's excellent effort was not on target. We have all moaned in the past about old players arriving at the Gills for one last payday. We now have a Manager doing the same thing and quite frankly I for one think that enough is enough.
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Post by gillsjan on Oct 26, 2014 18:11:45 GMT 1
Wow Bert you wrote a book then!!
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Post by muppet on Oct 26, 2014 20:49:53 GMT 1
I agree about throws in!
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