Southgate needs replacing

[swansgills888]

Now that the dust has settled after the England defeat.

I look back and think Southgate's inability to react to change in the flow of the game and his negative tactics in the second half cost England and the nation the victory we craved.

We had the athleticism to win it, whereas Italy had the better technique with the ball and experience in their central defensive pairing. The decision to sit back and soak up pressure to preserve the lead for the entire second half. Ultimately, cost England the best chance for a trophy.

The fact that Southgate does not trust Grealish wholly speaks volumes about the weakness of Southgate. He was out coached by Mancini during vital moments in the game and manager's 'live and die' by those decisions.

How does a Grealish a experienced captain at Villa not go ahead of Saka and Sancho on the pens ? Jack has already stated he wanted to take one ??

Southgate's got his favourites and I think he has some beef with England's best creative spark and blanked him for the main k8cks.

How does Pickford who was apparently our 6th pen taker go ahead of Grealish.

Southgate's defensive mindset and beef with Jack should mean we move onwards with a new manager.

England have the offensive players but coach who is very much a defensive minded guy who will never in my opinion win a tournament under his guidance.

Up The Gills !!!

[swansgills888]

The question...did Grealish deserve to start each game ?

[donut]

Jul 18, 2021 12:07:18 GMT 1 swansgills888 said:

The question...did Grealish deserve to start each game ?

Not sure yet Swans. I do agree with you about Southgate and he hasn’t learned to tactically close a game out or to counter attack. Even after the Croatia World cup game. He just got better at defending but it wasn’t quite good enough. Not only that but he didn’t prepare properly for penalties which is astounding. Should he lose his job? Well, he’s been our most successful since Ramsey but has he got what it takes to take us over the line? In Qatar? I don’t think so myself but you have to congratulate him, give him one more chance and hope he can learn after this devastating blow when it was there for the taking. After all, who else could do it? Perhaps a foreign coach again? Pep? Could he really have defeated Mancini in tactics, maybe not. Is Mancini all that good? Well not that good at City was he, what about elsewhere? But he did it with Italy somehow with the Italian players on his side and full of guile and strangling methods, he s not a wizard, nor are any of them, no point thinking they are. Could Mancini do the same with us? I doubt it. Did I get annoyed at the smugness of Bonucci and Mancini? Very much. The best way is allow Southgate to wipe that smugness away in Qatar. Southgate needs to unleash what he has under him is some fashion or other though.

[ldb30]

should the winners of a big tournament be decided with bloody penalty's?...., what was wrong with golden goals of years gone by, it was the bloody Final when all said and done, and was allowing the the winner to be decided with a lottery finish, madness. i'm sure another 60 minutes of football would given us a true winner

[donut]

I somehow agree with that.

[stewie]

Jul 21, 2021 14:30:40 GMT 1 ldb30 said:

should the winners of a big tournament be decided with bloody penalty's?...., what was wrong with golden goals of years gone by, it was the bloody Final when all said and done, and was allowing the the winner to be decided with a lottery finish, madness. i'm sure another 60 minutes of football would given us a true winner

But we had two 15 minute periods of extra time so neither the 'silver' goal nor 'golden' goal rule would have helped?

[swansgills888]

Southgate's defensive mentality would have meant the game would have not finished till midnight.

He messed up the tactics and too naive in his thinking about subs and the pens.

I am not a Southgate fan.

[donut]

It would have been a different match Stewie and Southgate could ve gone for it, whether he would have done? Well?