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Post by swansgills888 on Mar 12, 2024 21:33:04 GMT 1
Our top goalscorer sent-off and 1 nil down...will mean our seasons chances of making the play-offs are looking very slim now.
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Post by donut on Mar 12, 2024 21:45:04 GMT 1
Oh dear, awful again. Don't think the Gallinsons will be too fussed this season, to them it will be progress and a learning curve for them re spending and spending properly. Stadium improvements in the Summer hopefully and try to get it right next time. Got to look at it that way this seasons over as we become worse.
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Post by summerwell on Mar 12, 2024 22:48:36 GMT 1
What a train wreck ! Imagine yourself GFC manager - down to 10 men and in desperate need of a goal, you look around at the 'strikers' on your bench and see Nadesan ( sorry but just his name puts me in mind of a lavatory cleaning solution) and Walker. The giant remains comatose.
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Post by Greyfox on Mar 12, 2024 22:56:09 GMT 1
Yes, Donut. Just about sums it up..
A terrible display, it’s the supporters I feel sorry for. The 1000 odd who have given such wonderful support again this evening.
I’m sure the Galinsons didn’t sign up for this, as you say a massive leaning curve.
Tough night for us Gills supporters to take, but hey ho, whats new.
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Post by swansgills888 on Mar 12, 2024 23:54:34 GMT 1
SC....tonight showed his true ability as a manager.
His time at the Gills is finished.
Scally, Jackett and Hess have to do one too.
Too many merchanaries associated with the club.
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Post by hessisgod on Mar 13, 2024 0:33:56 GMT 1
Delighted I went tonight. 2 lousy sides but they had a pace and a lump who knew where the net is. Clemence has given up any pretence of suggesting he rates our strikers. He withdrew the hapless Hawkins at half time in order to play 2 midfielders in sort of up front/false nine roles. None of us in the stands had a clue what formation he was trying to play and clearly nor did the players.
I don’t want to get silly, but I will note that a couple of weeks ago, grey fox suggested that those of us with doubts about Clemence had been put in our box. I’d just like to take the opportunity to say back at you. I’ve heard lots of interesting stuff about him from behind the scenes and the players don’t rate him at all and it’s evident in how they play.
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Post by terryjolleysboot on Mar 13, 2024 0:51:10 GMT 1
Poor chairman,controlled by extremely poor ex Chairman.. Terrible recruitment team... Absolutely useless 4th choice manager... Plus the worse forward line in our history....
I fear for our club;toxic through and through..
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Post by stevolution on Mar 13, 2024 0:52:44 GMT 1
Firstly, the players have done nothing in the last couple of years to give them the right to "not rate" a manager. They need to sort themselves out before judging others.
That said, Clemence got an awful lot wrong tonight. 1 up front, when that 1 is pretty immobile, and you don't get anyone else close to him, is never ever going to work. At half time he then brings Hawkins off - fake enough, he can't chase enough with just 10 men - but he doesn't bring on a forward to run around a lot (walker). Instead we go 0 up top. OK, that means we're gonna close up shop till the last 15 and then try to grab an equaliser. Except for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half, we actually had a bit of a go. With 10 men and none up front. The thinking is all over the place.
I don't want to knock Masterson too much, but that was a really really bad bit of decision making. Cost us the game really. Who knows what happens 11 v 11 at one nil.
Wimbledon are a horrible side. have been for years, and nothing has changed. Diving, surrounding the ref, dark arts. I know we get some sh!t at our level, but tonight's officials were abysmal. Ball went off in front of us by about 2 foot at one point, played on. Blatantl penalty in front of us at the end, Ehmer having his shirt pulled, not given. Just gave them everything. Multiple dubious offsides. Not good enough
I'll do my player ratings in the morning, just got home and can't be bothered now
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Post by medwaystandgill on Mar 13, 2024 1:14:45 GMT 1
Delighted I went tonight. 2 lousy they had a pace and a lump who knew where the net is. Clemence has given up any pretence of suggesting he rates our strikers. He withdrew the hapless Hawkins at half time in order to play 2 midfielders in sort of up front/false nine roles. None of us in the stands had a clue what formation he was trying to play and clearly nor did the players. I don’t want to get silly, but I will note that a couple of weeks ago, grey fox suggested that those of us with doubts about Clemence had been put in our box. I’d just like to take the opportunity to say back at you. I’ve heard lots of interesting stuff about him from behind the scenes and the players don’t rate him at all and it’s evident in how they play. You don't even need to hear stuff from behind the scenes about Clem, he comes across as a nice guy but it looks like the players aren't particularly organised and his tactics are like someone with a new game of football manager. I hoped I would be proved wrong at the business end, and still do but put it into perspective we beat(very well) a free falling Notts County with the league 2 equivalent of Millwall's Joe Edwards at the helm. Yes we beat Wrexham in our Cup final for our only home win of 2024, but despite a million shots we were a lick of paint and an awful finish away from getting beat by Tranmere on Saturday. The same could be said for Forest Green too. This squad and manager are not play off material, I'm glad we aren't where we were just over a year ago, but if the Galinsons want promotion it is unlikely we will do it with these players and this management team. We needed a proper striker in the summer, didn't get one and it was always going to be hard to get one in January. Andrews might be an answer but he wasn't exactly banging them in for Accrington, and i certainly wouldn't rush him back if our season is looking over. The season isn't yet done but the table now looks more ominous with our poor goalscoring record and gd, meaning if we are going to do something we have to buck the trend from what we have been doing all season. Miracles might happen,Easter is coming up after all!
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Post by donut on Mar 13, 2024 8:41:18 GMT 1
Firstly, the players have done nothing in the last couple of years to give them the right to "not rate" a manager. They need to sort themselves out before judging others. That said, Clemence got an awful lot wrong tonight. 1 up front, when that 1 is pretty immobile, and you don't get anyone else close to him, is never ever going to work. At half time he then brings Hawkins off - fake enough, he can't chase enough with just 10 men - but he doesn't bring on a forward to run around a lot (walker). Instead we go 0 up top. OK, that means we're gonna close up shop till the last 15 and then try to grab an equaliser. Except for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half, we actually had a bit of a go. With 10 men and none up front. The thinking is all over the place. I don't want to knock Masterson too much, but that was a really really bad bit of decision making. Cost us the game really. Who knows what happens 11 v 11 at one nil. Wimbledon are a horrible side. have been for years, and nothing has changed. Diving, surrounding the ref, dark arts. I know we get some sh!t at our level, but tonight's officials were abysmal. Ball went off in front of us by about 2 foot at one point, played on. Blatantl penalty in front of us at the end, Ehmer having his shirt pulled, not given. Just gave them everything. Multiple dubious offsides. Not good enough I'll do my player ratings in the morning, just got home and can't be bothered now No but if they re not buying into it, and we lack in areas and they know, what chance gave we got? Brad has to act or he'll lose his credibility.
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Post by stevolution on Mar 13, 2024 9:45:52 GMT 1
Firstly, the players have done nothing in the last couple of years to give them the right to "not rate" a manager. They need to sort themselves out before judging others. That said, Clemence got an awful lot wrong tonight. 1 up front, when that 1 is pretty immobile, and you don't get anyone else close to him, is never ever going to work. At half time he then brings Hawkins off - fake enough, he can't chase enough with just 10 men - but he doesn't bring on a forward to run around a lot (walker). Instead we go 0 up top. OK, that means we're gonna close up shop till the last 15 and then try to grab an equaliser. Except for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half, we actually had a bit of a go. With 10 men and none up front. The thinking is all over the place. I don't want to knock Masterson too much, but that was a really really bad bit of decision making. Cost us the game really. Who knows what happens 11 v 11 at one nil. Wimbledon are a horrible side. have been for years, and nothing has changed. Diving, surrounding the ref, dark arts. I know we get some sh!t at our level, but tonight's officials were abysmal. Ball went off in front of us by about 2 foot at one point, played on. Blatantl penalty in front of us at the end, Ehmer having his shirt pulled, not given. Just gave them everything. Multiple dubious offsides. Not good enough I'll do my player ratings in the morning, just got home and can't be bothered now No but if they re not buying into it, and we lack in areas and they know, what chance gave we got? Brad has to act or he'll lose his credibility. That's 3 managers this season they havent bought into
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Post by hessisgod on Mar 13, 2024 10:37:31 GMT 1
I’m afraid that isn’t the case. I’m not rehashing the rights and wrongs of sacking Harris, but the players were absolutely behind him.
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Post by donut on Mar 13, 2024 12:52:57 GMT 1
I’m afraid that isn’t the case. I’m not rehashing the rights and wrongs of sacking Harris, but the players were absolutely behind him.[/quote I wouldn't Hess cos they certainly did not buy into Harris or Millen but as others have said the problem goes deeper.
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Post by stevolution on Mar 13, 2024 15:21:30 GMT 1
I’m afraid that isn’t the case. I’m not rehashing the rights and wrongs of sacking Harris, but the players were absolutely behind him. They had a funny way of showing it
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Post by Greyfox on Mar 13, 2024 15:34:28 GMT 1
Delighted I went tonight. 2 lousy sides but they had a pace and a lump who knew where the net is. Clemence has given up any pretence of suggesting he rates our strikers. He withdrew the hapless Hawkins at half time in order to play 2 midfielders in sort of up front/false nine roles. None of us in the stands had a clue what formation he was trying to play and clearly nor did the players. I don’t want to get silly, but I will note that a couple of weeks ago, grey fox suggested that those of us with doubts about Clemence had been put in our box. I’d just like to take the opportunity to say back at you. I’ve heard lots of interesting stuff about him from behind the scenes and the players don’t rate him at all and it’s evident in how they play. Hessisgod. That’s maybe because Clemence has come to the conclusion that he has a very average bunch of Division 2 players in the squad. The thoughts of players talking behind his back and trying to undermine him is pathetic. Clemence has played at the highest level and knows exactly the strength of the squad he has inherited. He might not be your cup of tea. But at least he never hangs out his players to dry and always backs them up, what ever happens. You may think it’s acceptable for players to spread, interesting stuff, as you put it, but I think it’s disloyalty and hopefully those responsible will be long gone by next season. Still I dare say by some on this site, if they were Mansfield supporters they would be asking for Clough to be sacked. After all, they have just lost a couple of games to so called lower sides. This league is the strangest league with everyone beating everyone else.
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