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Post by eccles on Jan 12, 2019 23:46:30 GMT 1
STEWIE...Clubs like us can still still reach Championship level realistically and above but you need a ambitious chairman who is willing to push thd boat out, who is onside with the fans and a very good manager. First and foremost we have a chairman who has lost touch with the fans, he is a difficult person to deal with and most probably the main reason most potential investors don't get pass the first stage of negotiations. Then we have a manager who his clearly not a long term option for us, so realistically everything currently is short term. You must remember that teams like Reading, Swansea and Bournemouth have reached the promised land. Teams like Brentford, Millwall, Bristol City, Bolton and Rotherham are the kind of clubs who are within our range and what we should be aiming at. Look at Brentford a club who are no bigger than us but play some of the best football in their division and have a new stadium in place now. In order for us to grow and progress we MUST have a new stadium which will naturally enhance the clubs status and make us a bigger club overnight. Every passing season at the current ground is another year lost to opportunities to seriously make the club we follow a attractive venue to watch football, attract decent quality players and potential investors. Everyone knows that the Medway Towns is not a nice place to visit and Rochester is just about acceptable for virgin tourists, just look at Chatham and Gillingham High Street. They are both rundown and embarrassing to visit, the way forward for the image of the conurbation is the club need a new 20k seater stadium to bring some expectations, sense of pride and passion back to the people, that has been missing for a long time. A out of town location with other businesses including a big supermarket is only way forward. The " LITTLE GILLINGHAM " label is only in place because of the the people running the club, anything is possible if you have the ambition and fortitude to succeed in a otherwise non-desript area of Kent. Never thought I’d say this Swans, but I agree with pretty much everything you say there. If we could re-develop the Town End, you could argue we don’t need a new stadium, but I guess we haven’t even got the money (or planning permission for that).
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Post by donut on Jan 13, 2019 0:41:11 GMT 1
STEWIE...Clubs like us can still still reach Championship level realistically and above but you need a ambitious chairman who is willing to push thd boat out, who is onside with the fans and a very good manager. First and foremost we have a chairman who has lost touch with the fans, he is a difficult person to deal with and most probably the main reason most potential investors don't get pass the first stage of negotiations. Then we have a manager who his clearly not a long term option for us, so realistically everything currently is short term. You must remember that teams like Reading, Swansea and Bournemouth have reached the promised land. Teams like Brentford, Millwall, Bristol City, Bolton and Rotherham are the kind of clubs who are within our range and what we should be aiming at. Look at Brentford a club who are no bigger than us but play some of the best football in their division and have a new stadium in place now. In order for us to grow and progress we MUST have a new stadium which will naturally enhance the clubs status and make us a bigger club overnight. Every passing season at the current ground is another year lost to opportunities to seriously make the club we follow a attractive venue to watch football, attract decent quality players and potential investors. Everyone knows that the Medway Towns is not a nice place to visit and Rochester is just about acceptable for virgin tourists, just look at Chatham and Gillingham High Street. They are both rundown and embarrassing to visit, the way forward for the image of the conurbation is the club need a new 20k seater stadium to bring some expectations, sense of pride and passion back to the people, that has been missing for a long time. A out of town location with other businesses including a big supermarket is only way forward. ou miss the point of what's needThe " LITTLE GILLINGHAM " label is only in place because of the the people running the club, anything is possible if you have the ambition and fortitude to succeed in a otherwise non-desript area of Kent. Never thought I’d say this Swans, but I agree with pretty much everything you say there. If we could re-develop the Town End, you could argue we don’t need a new stadium, but I guess we haven’t even got the money (or planning permission for that). NO, No, No, redeveloping the Town End is NOT what we need, that is scratching the surface, a gimmick if you will. I think you miss the point of what's needed in a root and branch change. It is so much more than a redevelopment of the Town End. That is naive.
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Post by donut on Jan 13, 2019 0:42:56 GMT 1
You are so right swans, but regarding investment, why on earth would anyone with money want to invest in a club that the chairman takes out 1/4 mill or whatever it is, for his own use and just does enough to keep the club ticking over and always flirting with relegation? If I had a billion pounds to spare I wouldn't invest a penny of it in a club like Gillingham who has a chairman like Scally . I might buy it outright, but invest to give the chairman better holidays, never... A very good point.
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Post by swansgills888 on Jan 13, 2019 5:20:43 GMT 1
The Town End looks like the main stand on the final hole in The Golf Open Championship down at Sandwich. Forget about re-developing that end, a new stadium is no brainer and only viable way forward for the club to develop its entire structure for decades to come. Good road links, public transport facilities, pre-match and post match entertainment ( like restaurants and cinemas ) and easy accessibility to and from matches would make a significant difference to matchday attendances. Every passing year is a lost opportunity and the Gills have been a very poor football league club in the main and will always be like that until we wake up from our malaise. The biggest first hurdle is the removal of our chairman who is not well liked among a decent majority of our fans, a poor BS chairman at the heart of the club is negative when a club is trying to progress, so until Scallywag is gone the club's malaise looks like it's carrying on as normal for us, a team with very limited success but always better than Rochdale most years. Is that acceptable in the fans eyes Year after year of depressing low grade, poor quality football with the odds half decent season thrown in. NOT IN MY OPINION.
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Post by mancunianinmedway on Jan 13, 2019 9:43:27 GMT 1
The problem with all this talk of whether we have the funds or not is that it is all guess work, and has no basis in fact.
I think it is unlikely that Eaves or Holy will leave in the January transfer window. So if they don't it might be worth waiting until the summer and potentially having a bigger pot of money to play with, as other contracts might be running out around then as well.
That's not to say I think our squad is perfect, I don't, but merely looking at it subjectively our current squad is doing enough to keep us out of the relegation zone (for now) so a bigger pot of money in the summer could help build a better squad to push up the league next season, or gives Scally some wiggle room if he needs to sack Lovell
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Post by eccles on Jan 13, 2019 10:37:36 GMT 1
Never thought I’d say this Swans, but I agree with pretty much everything you say there. If we could re-develop the Town End, you could argue we don’t need a new stadium, but I guess we haven’t even got the money (or planning permission for that). NO, No, No, redeveloping the Town End is NOT what we need, that is scratching the surface, a gimmick if you will. I think you miss the point of what's needed in a root and branch change. It is so much more than a redevelopment of the Town End. That is naive. Dont, I don’t miss the point at all. I completely understand that a different culture is needed within the club and that ideally a new infrastructure could help prompt that change. I just see no signs that the infrastructure is changing any time soon. End.
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Post by donut on Jan 13, 2019 10:39:52 GMT 1
NO, No, No, redeveloping the Town End is NOT what we need, that is scratching the surface, a gimmick if you will. I think you miss the point of what's needed in a root and branch change. It is so much more than a redevelopment of the Town End. That is naive. Dont, I don’t miss the point at all. I completely understand that a different culture is needed within the club and that ideally a new infrastructure could help prompt that change. I just see no signs that the infrastructure is changing any time soon. End. Well, very good. If you understand that, you won't be bringing up silly ideas of redeveloping the Town End, will you?
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Post by donut on Jan 13, 2019 10:47:42 GMT 1
The problem with all this talk of whether we have the funds or not is that it is all guess work, and has no basis in fact. I think it is unlikely that Eaves or Holy will leave in the January transfer window. So if they don't it might be worth waiting until the summer and potentially having a bigger pot of money to play with, as other contracts might be running out around then as well. That's not to say I think our squad is perfect, I don't, but merely looking at it subjectively our current squad is doing enough to keep us out of the relegation zone (for now) so a bigger pot of money in the summer could help build a better squad to push up the league next season, or gives Scally some wiggle room if he needs to sack Lovell Yes it is guesswork but based on what's going on at the club. so it's informed guesswork. How many times has Scally talked up a new Stadium and then it goes dead, not one idea for months after? He seems to have no-one, not Supermarkets, not anyone who will back him in these ideas, or he is pushing them away. Either way you're left with the same. We reach the conclusion that while Scally is in charge, nothing will change. This kind of project even in these supposedly 'tight' days is attractive and yet he can't/won't even begin to get it off the ground and then we don't get a proper explanation as to why that is. Was there a refusal from the current owners of the proposed area of the proposed new Stadium, was there a refusal from Medway Council to consider the idea? Who Knows, as far as I'm aware, we've not been told.
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