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Post by iblue on Aug 11, 2011 21:33:13 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 19:36:15 GMT 1
Gordon road appears to have rattled gills365's cage who are claiming the preview is plagiarised from their own site!
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Post by johnknee on Aug 12, 2011 22:12:01 GMT 1
The offending bit is the bit at the end that says:
"Mr Gibbs is an Assistant Head Teacher in Kings Heath, Birmingham. He is in his fifth season as a League referee, and this will be his fifth occasion he has taken charge of a Gills game. Based in Shirley Mr Gibbs qualified as a referee in 1993, and was appointed to the National Group of Referees in 2008. "
I'm not sure if that is solely the work of the writer at Gills365 but it reads like the sort of press release that the FA release in announcing the officials and you sometimes find produced in various matchday programmes (although not our one specificially)... To be honest most of GordonRoadBlue's article reads like a pick and mix of the public press release that the press association releases. I mean in terms of the manager quotes and that sort of stuff.
If the comments have been plagiarised, then it is only 5% of the total article...
Plus I am not sure GordonRoadBlue has claimed the individual quotes etc as his own - merely the one who puts everything together for this site.....
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Post by gills365 on Aug 13, 2011 9:31:54 GMT 1
Hi John,
Just to clarify, we're not saying the entire article has been plagiarised. Certainly not from our site, anyway. I can't comment on the source of the other articles. But I do know you can't simply lift content from other sites and republish them without permission, that's breach of copyright, or (if a new author's name is accredited to it) plagiarism.
However one of our contribs produces a small article each week about the referee and it has clearly been lifted (almost word-for-word) not once, but twice already this season for the referee part of this site's match preview articles.
The copy that has been taken may read like a press release, but in fact that article was researched and written entirely by our contrib. We don't regurgitate press releases - we prefer to publish unique content, written by our contribs themselves.
Obviously with a niche topic like a League Two football club, there will be certain things that appear on Gillingham websites, be they official or otherwise, that are similar (stats, scorelines, scorers etc). After all, we're often using the same information and talking about the same team and the same matches.
However, we all have the ability to convey that information on our own sites in our own words. Unfortunately it appears that, in the case of the referee information, GordonRoadBlue has done little more than lift content from our site and put it on this one. No permission was asked, no credit was included and no effort was made to write it in his own words.
GillsConnect is a good site and one that's been going for many years. It certainly doesn't need its contributors to lift content directly from other websites in order to produce content.
That's why it's disappointing that content from our site has started appearing on here, and through this message we'd respectfully request that it stops.
There's a clear copyright message on every non-forum page of our site:
"All content © Gills365 2011. Please do not reproduce or lift content from this website for publication elsewhere without prior written permission from the site editor. If you wish to use any of the content published on this website, please get in touch with us via the contact form on this site."
I respectfully ask that GordonRoadBlue does his own research and writes his own content, in his own words, rather than simply using ours.
Hope that clears everything up. Fingers crossed for a good result at Crewe today.
Simon
Gills365
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 12:57:20 GMT 1
Still find this a touch odd. Both sites are by the fans for the fans and can't really see why 365 have their knickers in such a twist. While I agree that gordonroad should have asked permission, it's such a small part of an article, I don't see it matters. Doesn't copyright law allow a proportion of work to be copied without infringing the law anyway? 10% springs to mind, but could be wrong
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Post by gills365 on Aug 13, 2011 14:30:28 GMT 1
Hi hessisgod,
I understand you agree GordonRoadBlue should have asked permission and I also understand if you think it's a touch odd. All I've asked is for people to not take content from Gills365 without permission.
You mentioned the issue of copyright law. Just to clarify:
It is an offence to perform any of the following acts without the consent of the owner:
- Copy the work
- Rent, lend or issue copies of the work to the public
- Perform, broadcast or show the work in public
- Adapt the work
Our copyright has been infringed twice in two weeks, so I've posted a message to respectfully ask that it stops.
If you think it's a little odd for me to bring this up and ask that it stops, that's OK. I assure you it's completely normal for bloggers/website owners to expect that their words won't appear elsewhere without prior permission being saught and agreed. It's their legal right as copyright holders of the words they write and publish. Hopefully it's not an issue that will happen again. It may not have been understood as an issue before, so if that's the case, hopefully that's cleared things up.
After all, we all have the ability to write in our own words, don't we?
COYBB
Simon
Gills365
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2011 17:35:51 GMT 1
Just wonder whether, theoretically, you'd give gordonroad permission to use some of your info, Simon?
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