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Post by evo on Apr 16, 2016 20:03:05 GMT 1
Garmston's not on loan. Little injuries seem to affect him more than most, hence his up and down form, but I'd guess that's because he's working close to his physical capacity more often than most. I like Dickenson as an attacking winger but when the role is left back, I much prefer Garmston. Errrr- so when exactly has Garmston been injured ? The only injury he has had all year was that hamstring twinge which remarkably he was only out for two weeks - that's the only injury he has had all year ! No what causes his form to change is that he is always subbed or has to get dickenson out if the sh@t when he messes up He needs s prolonged run of games
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Post by evo on Apr 16, 2016 20:04:20 GMT 1
Garmston's not on loan. Little injuries seem to affect him more than most, hence his up and down form, but I'd guess that's because he's working close to his physical capacity more often than most. I like Dickenson as an attacking winger but when the role is left back, I much prefer Garmston. Errrr- so when exactly has Garmston been injured ? The only injury he has had all year was that hamstring twinge which remarkably he was only out for two weeks - that's the only injury he has had all year ! No what causes his form to change is that he is always subbed or has to get dickenson out if the sh@t when he messes up He needs s prolonged run of games And he had a bit of cramp the other night
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Post by technical on Apr 16, 2016 20:07:27 GMT 1
I know he hasn't had much time out injured but I think he feels it if, say, his hamstrings are a bit tight. His fitness is such a big part of his game that he needs to be 100% to play well whereas other players (who dont work as hard) can get away with being 80/90% fit.
Completely agree though that he should have started much more than he has.
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Post by terryjolleysboot on Apr 16, 2016 20:29:55 GMT 1
Garmston's not on loan. Little injuries seem to affect him more than most, hence his up and down form, but I'd guess that's because he's working close to his physical capacity more often than most. I like Dickenson as an attacking winger but when the role is left back, I much prefer Garmston. Garmston is excellent when on form but he was poor Tuesday night he didn't get forward enough! I didn't realise he wasn't a loan player,,to my detriment!
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Post by wiltshirelad1 on Apr 16, 2016 20:34:18 GMT 1
As a supporter for more than sixty years and now having to follow from afar I had high hopes at the beginning of the season. Unfortunately it seems my hopes have disintegrated into sorrow. Everything seems to have gone wrong since December. It now looks as though even a play-off place may be gone. Has Jed lost the plot or are the players just not up to the challenge. Unless we Buck up in the remaining few games it is season over and Div 1 again for 2016- 2017. COYB
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Post by evo on Apr 16, 2016 21:03:20 GMT 1
Garmston's not on loan. Little injuries seem to affect him more than most, hence his up and down form, but I'd guess that's because he's working close to his physical capacity more often than most. I like Dickenson as an attacking winger but when the role is left back, I much prefer Garmston. Errrr exactly when has Garmston been injured this season apart from a small hamstring niggle which remarkably he recovered from in only two weeks this year No Garmston irregular form is because he is the fall guy and being bought on and off to cover for dickenson when he messes up - it's easy to drop the young new boy If he had a good run of games we would get to seethe best of Garmston
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Post by technical on Apr 16, 2016 21:05:21 GMT 1
The injuries obviously haven't helped and the players are mostly young and relatively inexperienced, but I do think they could have done it. JED has/had them playing as a team so that they were achieving more than their ability as individuals, but he does seem to have lost it in his selection/tactics of late. TBF, that's always been a bit hit and miss. The away game at Colchester was where it all started to go wrong!
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Post by muppet on Apr 16, 2016 21:33:47 GMT 1
As I have said a number of times recently and I stick to exactly what I said after Tuesday's game, i lay the blame for the poor form firmly at JE feet. The tactics are awful, subs mystifying and lack of leadership from the side awful. Whilst a number of players seem to be off their game I beleive this is due to the way the side is being selected and set up. When I heard the team before kick off I just laughed in amazement. JE ethos seems to be if in doubt resort to div2 long ball and it is embarrassing. Port vale have one of the worst away records in the div and we should have pressed high and as a team and attacked wide and get balls into their box and again we failed due to the formation. As to playing Donnelly ATM, my farts are more potent than him and I'm a sweet smelling individual!! JE, get the videos out pre Xmas, look at how we played and get back to that now or fail miserably.
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Post by evo on Apr 16, 2016 21:35:09 GMT 1
I know he hasn't had much time out injured but I think he feels it if, say, his hamstrings are a bit tight. His fitness is such a big part of his game that he needs to be 100% to play well whereas other players (who dont work as hard) can get away with being 80/90% fit. Completely agree though that he should have started much more than he has. Actually I agree with that as his works his b@lls off all game every game
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Post by swanleygill on Apr 16, 2016 22:10:09 GMT 1
Just out of interest, was todays game similar to Tuesdays, in the sense that we looked ok in large parts, but wasted corner after corner and long throw after long throw, Also, is this just coincidence but it went to pot on Tuesday when el-abdd went off and Ehmer-Egan played together, I saw they both started together today, can they play together, or is it like lampard and gerrard for England, both brilliant individually, but can't play together.
I do feel for Garmston, we tried so hard to get him, and he looks quality, he should play every game if fit, I also felt a bit sorry Norris didn't start today, was this due to injury or non selection, as I felt on Tuesday he was 1000% better than cody, cody just looks rusty as hell right now, but who can blame him.
Also, why do we revert to long ball as when we play the ball on the deck we actually look decent, the long ball, or even ball in the air passing is just crud, we are rubbish at heading the ball.
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Post by dazza23 on Apr 16, 2016 22:10:30 GMT 1
So frustrating supporting Gills but as I said back at the beginning of January when we was still picking up the odd win we looked awful so I predicted us to miss out on the play offs even though we was still top of the league you could just see the football was getting worse and you can only get lucky results for a little while. Everyone probably laughed but anyone who could not see this coming obviously haven't seen the football we have been playing since January. We got to remember it's still not been a terrible season even though we should have made play-offs with the start we had to the season. But I'm more worried about next season I think there could be a relagation battle coming up what does everyone else think?
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Post by statotheblue on Apr 16, 2016 22:17:31 GMT 1
It staggers me the ammont of posts on this board today compared to when we win. Arron Morris and Jake Hessenthaler were outstanding today.Many others let themselves down although I felt Dack at times looked dangerous. He was very well marked by the Vale number 42 Antony Grant who read the game really well and was the best player on the pitch today.As for the rest of the rubbish talked about largely attacking players and staff at the club after what was a disapointing day but still a good season.We all can see this side is not ready for the Championship one or two players apart it is really too soon for most.Players need a lift anyone can see that.I have always said having a young developing side means a lack of consistency. Time some fans got real and supported the team gave them as much credit when they do well as they do shout the odds when things don't go right.Good night.
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Post by swanleygill on Apr 16, 2016 22:51:29 GMT 1
It staggers me the ammont of posts on this board today compared to when we win. Arron Morris and Jake Hessenthaler were outstanding today.Many others let themselves down although I felt Dack at times looked dangerous. He was very well marked by the Vale number 42 Antony Grant who read the game really well and was the best player on the pitch today.As for the rest of the rubbish talked about largely attacking players and staff at the club after what was a disapointing day but still a good season.We all can see this side is not ready for the Championship one or two players apart it is really too soon for most.Players need a lift anyone can see that.I have always said having a young developing side means a lack of consistency. Time some fans got real and supported the team gave them as much credit when they do well as they do shout the odds when things don't go right.Good night. Stato you are one of the most respected members of this forum, but that does not mean people have to agree with you. I went Tuesday (thanks to jan) but frankly if I had to pay £50 + travel expenses etc... to watch it, id be peed of big time, imagine if I went today too, all in £130+ to watch 2 disappointing defeats, the point is, we all largely agree the team selection at times is shocking and the long ball crud is frustrating as hell, especially as when we play the ball on the floor we look decent. Then there is the fact that we are a professional football club, but from the corners and long throws, you would never know it, we are more predictable than spot the dog. I agree we are not ready for promotion, and I can handle that, but to miss out the way we are is sad
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Post by terryjolleysboot on Apr 17, 2016 0:40:18 GMT 1
It staggers me the ammont of posts on this board today compared to when we win. Arron Morris and Jake Hessenthaler were outstanding today.Many others let themselves down although I felt Dack at times looked dangerous. He was very well marked by the Vale number 42 Antony Grant who read the game really well and was the best player on the pitch today.As for the rest of the rubbish talked about largely attacking players and staff at the club after what was a disapointing day but still a good season.We all can see this side is not ready for the Championship one or two players apart it is really too soon for most.Players need a lift anyone can see that.I have always said having a young developing side means a lack of consistency. Time some fans got real and supported the team gave them as much credit when they do well as they do shout the odds when things don't go right.Good night. All I can say is get real this isn't football in the late 70's under Summers or early 80's under Peacock where we were happy if we were nearly men! Social media has changed eveeything and people are going to vent there frustration for all and sunder to see! Todays game is more cut throat which isn't neccesarily to my liking but thats how it is. What will particulary stick in most peoples memories is the sudden demise of the last few months not logical answers of youth and inexperience plus injuries! The old adage of the season evens out comes to mind I remember Scunthorpe at home when luck ran our way now today luck evened it self out with the way the balls ran for us in the box. If we get in the playoffs and it is a big if we can regroup and treat it like a different competition, cup football,Southend stuttered and stalled and got promoted through them last year!
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Post by gillsjan on Apr 17, 2016 13:49:07 GMT 1
It staggers me the ammont of posts on this board today compared to when we win. Arron Morris and Jake Hessenthaler were outstanding today.Many others let themselves down although I felt Dack at times looked dangerous. He was very well marked by the Vale number 42 Antony Grant who read the game really well and was the best player on the pitch today.As for the rest of the rubbish talked about largely attacking players and staff at the club after what was a disapointing day but still a good season.We all can see this side is not ready for the Championship one or two players apart it is really too soon for most.Players need a lift anyone can see that.I have always said having a young developing side means a lack of consistency. Time some fans got real and supported the team gave them as much credit when they do well as they do shout the odds when things don't go right.Good night. It's obvious that there will be more posts when we are not winning. The fans are very passionate and react accordingly. When we are winning everyone is happy and there is little to say once the congratulations have been said. We have had a run of not so good results therefore you can expect a reaction from the fans and that's what we have.
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