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Post by donut on Oct 23, 2024 11:18:20 GMT 1
...with the greatest of respect. Who is this experienced manager you want to bring it Donut that’s going to turn things around. It’s just I thought we had been down that road and that didn’t work either…. Well that's because we keep choosing the wrong one and because our set up behind the scenes is faulty. If we're 21st at Christmas, what would you do then? |
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Post by lenny38 on Oct 23, 2024 14:28:56 GMT 1
Who is this experienced manager you want to bring it Donut that’s going to turn things around. It’s just I thought we had been down that road and that didn’t work either…. Well that's because we keep choosing the wrong one and because our set up behind the scenes is faulty. If we're 21st at Christmas, what would you do then? You haven’t answered the question. You want rid, who is this experienced manager? |
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Post by donut on Oct 23, 2024 15:19:17 GMT 1
Is that all you what? Well I've given you two either in this thread or the other one, if you ve been following?
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Post by donut on Oct 23, 2024 15:28:17 GMT 1
Now perhaps you can answer mine? What's stopping you, perhaps it's that you dont foresee a situation where we will be 21st at Christmas? Well take your glasses off unless something happens that's exactly where we ll be, we re not that good.
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Post by swansgills888 on Oct 23, 2024 15:42:29 GMT 1
Losing to Newport was a new low point Bonner's tenure. I think he is on borrowed time because he lacks the ability to get a tune out this squad when the pressure is on to it around.
Playing Turner ( dodgy keeper ) yesterday was huge mistake and this is where manager's live and die by their decisions on team selections.
Playing Swindon this weekend will be even more difficult fixture... the 6th straight defeat already looks on the cards.
If we do lose 8 or 9 on the trot then a change of manager will need to happen ASAP.
He has probably already lost the dressing room.
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Post by hessisgod on Oct 23, 2024 16:25:19 GMT 1
We won’t be 21st at Christmas.
You’ve got to ask what changing manager though would do, even if we think we will be.
We sacked Harris when we were 2 points off 2nd place. That was a total shocker of a decision. However, having made that decision, we interviewed various managers, including Lindsey (who should have got the job) and appointed Clemence, according to Scally over his head. Clemence was a shocker. Made us worse, had us bottom of the form table and we finished mid-table. The Galinsons again pulled the trigger and we went out and go, no, not my first choice, but what we’d been asking for - a manager who had on his CV the track record of getting a team out of this league. We started like a train and results have fallen off alarmingly with an injury crisis and key signings not hitting any sort of form - Nevitt is awful, Nolan worse, Euan Williams a waste of a wage, Wakeling not trusted, Rowe, Dack unfit. So, we leave striking duties to a man who we told wasn’t good enough in the summer and an untried non league 25 year old.
Why then, given 3 managers, 2 with good pedigree and experience and another highly rated coach, have all faced and been open about similar issues do we think things will be different if we sack another one, literally a couple of months into his tenure? We will still lack leadership on the pitch. We still don’t have a striker or a midfield capable of scoring the goals needed to get out of this league. We will still have injury prone players - they were injury prone when they joined and we should have known better.
We need to give this manager, with his proven track record, the tools to do his job. He doesn’t need Jackett, a failure in his last 3 jobs, to be signing rubbish players. He doesn’t need Hess, our greatest player, but a recent failure at non league Dover, to be involved. Let the man take proper charge and live and die by his decisions.
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Post by stevolution on Oct 23, 2024 17:23:29 GMT 1
Well that's because we keep choosing the wrong one and because our set up behind the scenes is faulty. If we're 21st at Christmas, what would you do then? You haven’t answered the question. You want rid, who is this experienced manager? Shefki Kuqi |
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Post by donut on Oct 23, 2024 17:45:52 GMT 1
We won’t be 21st at Christmas. You’ve got to ask what changing manager though would do, even if we think we will be. We sacked Harris when we were 2 points off 2nd place. That was a total shocker of a decision. However, having made that decision, we interviewed various managers, including Lindsey (who should have got the job) and appointed Clemence, according to Scally over his head. Clemence was a shocker. Made us worse, had us bottom of the form table and we finished mid-table. The Galinsons again pulled the trigger and we went out and go, no, not my first choice, but what we’d been asking for - a manager who had on his CV the track record of getting a team out of this league. We started like a train and results have fallen off alarmingly with an injury crisis and key signings not hitting any sort of form - Nevitt is awful, Nolan worse, Euan Williams a waste of a wage, Wakeling not trusted, Rowe, Dack unfit. So, we leave striking duties to a man who we told wasn’t good enough in the summer and an untried non league 25 year old. Why then, given 3 managers, 2 with good pedigree and experience and another highly rated coach, have all faced and been open about similar issues do we think things will be different if we sack another one, literally a couple of months into his tenure? We will still lack leadership on the pitch. We still don’t have a striker or a midfield capable of scoring the goals needed to get out of this league. We will still have injury prone players - they were injury prone when they joined and we should have known better. We need to give this manager, with his proven track record, the tools to do his job. He doesn’t need Jackett, a failure in his last 3 jobs, to be signing rubbish players. He doesn’t need Hess, our greatest player, but a recent failure at non league Dover, to be involved. Let the man take proper charge and live and die by his decisions. I have 3 observations. Harris was awful, should have gone. I pick up on two things you said, Scott Lindsay, should have got the job..yes getting rid of people isnt the problem, if Bonner goes, he goes, its WHO you replace him with and what you then do about recruitment, which i agree with you about. Your second comment, we wont be 21st by Christmas, wont we?, Really? But what if we are? I understand all the comments about players, personnel etc and they will all have to be sorted but if we continue to slide and the manager who's paid a lot of money to get a tune out of these half decent players, cannot, then he must go or the National League beckons we have no divine right to stay in the league, it has to be worked for. |
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Post by hessisgod on Oct 23, 2024 20:04:24 GMT 1
We won’t be 21st at Christmas. You’ve got to ask what changing manager though would do, even if we think we will be. We sacked Harris when we were 2 points off 2nd place. That was a total shocker of a decision. However, having made that decision, we interviewed various managers, including Lindsey (who should have got the job) and appointed Clemence, according to Scally over his head. Clemence was a shocker. Made us worse, had us bottom of the form table and we finished mid-table. The Galinsons again pulled the trigger and we went out and go, no, not my first choice, but what we’d been asking for - a manager who had on his CV the track record of getting a team out of this league. We started like a train and results have fallen off alarmingly with an injury crisis and key signings not hitting any sort of form - Nevitt is awful, Nolan worse, Euan Williams a waste of a wage, Wakeling not trusted, Rowe, Dack unfit. So, we leave striking duties to a man who we told wasn’t good enough in the summer and an untried non league 25 year old. Why then, given 3 managers, 2 with good pedigree and experience and another highly rated coach, have all faced and been open about similar issues do we think things will be different if we sack another one, literally a couple of months into his tenure? We will still lack leadership on the pitch. We still don’t have a striker or a midfield capable of scoring the goals needed to get out of this league. We will still have injury prone players - they were injury prone when they joined and we should have known better. We need to give this manager, with his proven track record, the tools to do his job. He doesn’t need Jackett, a failure in his last 3 jobs, to be signing rubbish players. He doesn’t need Hess, our greatest player, but a recent failure at non league Dover, to be involved. Let the man take proper charge and live and die by his decisions. I have 3 observations. Harris was awful, should have gone. I pick up on two things you said, Scott Lindsay, should have got the job..yes getting rid of people isnt the problem, if Bonner goes, he goes, its WHO you replace him with and what you then do about recruitment, which i agree with you about. Your second comment, we wont be 21st by Christmas, wont we?, Really? But what if we are? I understand all the comments about players, personnel etc and they will all have to be sorted but if we continue to slide and the manager who's paid a lot of money to get a tune out of these half decent players, cannot, then he must go or the National League beckons we have no divine right to stay in the league, it has to be worked for. If Harris was awful, why did he get the most out of a similar group of players? There is no way you sack a manager when you’re 2 points off second. Joke of a decision and we’ve paid for it. I don’t see who you replace him with. Do we get another manager proven to be able to get out of his league? What would they do differently? Suddenly find this lot are leaders? Suddenly find they can bang in goals for fun? Solve the injury crisis? Make Dack play 90 mins a week? Get Ollie Hawkins a new club or mobility? Look, if we’re 21st at Christmas, he’s as bad as Clemence and the owners will have no choice, but we won’t get anyone half decent at that point after sacking 4 managers in 2 years. We’ll have applicants, but they’ll be the damaged ones who need any job having failed somewhere else. Bonner was very highly rated and was able to pick a club. He must be gutted he decided Gillingham was the right club for his career. |
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Post by mooonlightgraham on Oct 23, 2024 21:48:28 GMT 1
Sixty Nine percent of overall possession, TWENTY FIVE shots on the night, 5 on target, 11 off target, and 9 blocked , how many goals did we win by , two, three ,FOUR, well our keeper only had to make ONE save and there's made 9, and yet we lost.
We don't need to spend big time on a goal scoring forward or two, were set up for promotion just as we are. Mid table,surrounded by old friends like the new AFC Wimbledon and the old Wimbledon, it's nice to be home.
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Post by donut on Oct 23, 2024 23:11:55 GMT 1
I have 3 observations. Harris was awful, should have gone. I pick up on two things you said, Scott Lindsay, should have got the job..yes getting rid of people isnt the problem, if Bonner goes, he goes, its WHO you replace him with and what you then do about recruitment, which i agree with you about. Your second comment, we wont be 21st by Christmas, wont we?, Really? But what if we are? I understand all the comments about players, personnel etc and they will all have to be sorted but if we continue to slide and the manager who's paid a lot of money to get a tune out of these half decent players, cannot, then he must go or the National League beckons we have no divine right to stay in the league, it has to be worked for. If Harris was awful, why did he get the most out of a similar group of players? There is no way you sack a manager when you’re 2 points off second. Joke of a decision and we’ve paid for it. I don’t see who you replace him with. Do we get another manager proven to be able to get out of his league? What would they do differently? Suddenly find this lot are leaders? Suddenly find they can bang in goals for fun? Solve the injury crisis? Make Dack play 90 mins a week? Get Ollie Hawkins a new club or mobility? Look, if we’re 21st at Christmas, he’s as bad as Clemence and the owners will have no choice, but we won’t get anyone half decent at that point after sacking 4 managers in 2 years. We’ll have applicants, but they’ll be the damaged ones who need any job having failed somewhere else. Bonner was very highly rated and was able to pick a club. He must be gutted he decided Gillingham was the right club for his career. No point in going round the mulberry Bush, I thought Harris was awful you didnt, but hes gone now and we will both agree that if we had replaced him properly, likely we d already be up. |
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Post by donut on Oct 23, 2024 23:13:13 GMT 1
And I would have won 250.00 on us.....instead of Crawley, ace bet do you think? Everyone else said they'd go down!
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Post by swansgills888 on Oct 24, 2024 7:20:35 GMT 1
I honestly think Bonner days are numbered at my club, my gut instinct tells me does not know how to stop the rot and lacks the capability to gain the respect of players who have bigger egos than him.
I am confident he will never manager above league one, so for that reason, there is not going to be any longevity and sustainability with him staying with us.
I can see that he is using choice words pre and post match interviews to smokescreen his own failing as a coach.
Bonner has very weak links and close associations with clubs , unlike Evan who has them on tap, all day, everyday.
Shefki Kuqi and me will bring us the success...not some manager who got promoted with no fans during covid. Lol
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