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Post by evo on Jan 8, 2016 13:47:47 GMT 1
So swannlwygills are you saying that you never go to the games or you go but don't pay but if you don't go then you've been missing some fantastic stuff and your comments are totally over the top and to be frank b....... ?
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Post by evo on Jan 8, 2016 13:51:31 GMT 1
And just to update you swannyleygills Jackson of late has been one of our best and most consistent players and he's not just a long throw Now tell me were their full backs any better than ours ? No they weren't !
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Post by occasionalvisitor on Jan 8, 2016 14:30:12 GMT 1
Or could it be that you're underestimating Wigan? I only ever get to see games in the north-west so don't claim to be perfectly equipped to comment, but there's no way that was a commanding 2-0 lead, nor were Wigan one of the poorer teams we'll face. Yes it's disappointing but the trick is not to make this result matter at the end of the season.
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Post by evo on Jan 8, 2016 14:48:14 GMT 1
Your right occasional visitor they weren't a bad team, in fact I haven't seen any bad teams in this division and anyone could beat another on their day
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Post by exstrood on Jan 8, 2016 16:52:33 GMT 1
I've just got rehooked again. Haven't been much in the last few years, but have been v Burton, Colchester and bradford. Watched last night on the tv, and I thought we looked quite good.slightly echoing other comments, I think our in game management wasn't what it could have been last night or v Colchester. When we went 1 nil up v col, we brought mcglashan on and opened up, same last night we took wright off, defensive midfielder and went to a more open 4 4 2. We got away with it just against col, but not so last night. 4 5 1 with mcglashan on for doherty would have been more sensible. That said we were still unlucky, their first goal was a clear foul on garmston, and overall we are doing really well and credit je for that. And as for criticism of Jackson, he has looked class to me so far. Up the gills
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Post by mark8364 on Jan 8, 2016 17:19:28 GMT 1
Garmston wasn't fouled for the opening goal, he wasn't strong enough!
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Post by evo on Jan 8, 2016 17:36:12 GMT 1
He was fouled have a look at the relplays again from your armchair
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2016 19:46:44 GMT 1
Certainly sorely disappointed with the result,particularly after leading as we did, their three goals can all be put down to our errors, the third coming when it did was devastating. Let us, however,not loose sight of who we were playing not so long ago Premiership and FA cup winners and a large club looking for a return of their status.As has been said were where we last season and prior,who are we, a young inexperienced team still showing big clubs (Coventry, Shef U, Wallsal,Wigan etc.) that we can mix it with the best, come on now have we forgotten max points from last four games, even in defeat we are still second in a very tough league This loss is hard to take but is part of the learning curve that the squad is going through, this surely is not the time to commit Hari Kari or drown in our tears but a time to get behind the squad and be supporters giving suport not whinging. We have lost before and come bouncing back and I see no reason why we can not do it again, as long as we keep the faith. COYG
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Post by terryjolleysboot on Jan 8, 2016 19:54:04 GMT 1
Garmston wasn't fouled for the opening goal, he wasn't strong enough! I think Garmston was poor defensively but I was surprised when the referee didn't blow for a foul on the first goal! I was waiting for the refs whistle as their striker booted it in!
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Post by muppet on Jan 8, 2016 21:12:02 GMT 1
garmiston and Jackson are young players and been very good this season. Last night they didn't look at their best, but there were reasons. I have read a number of the comments on the various threads, some stating they are wing backs, when in reality and IMO wing backs play as a 5 man defence or midfield, which we do not. They do press high up the pitch and usually against lesser opposition this isn't a problem, but last night it was as Wigan are no mugs. With the midfield diamond against their midfield of 5 on most occasions that left them even more exposed and having to cover far too much ground. I still believe JE should have reacted to their subs and dropped Donnelly for a 5 man midfield and closed up shop, however, he didn't and that's why I think we lost a game we should have won. But, at the end of the day JE has got it right more times than not, so who am I to criticise. As to nelsons howler, again he has been fantastic this season and is allowed that one at least; he will be giving himself a real kicking for that, which he shouldn't based on his season. I as, many others were very disappointed at losing and probably posted too early, but it is good to read others comments that quickly bring you back to reality and let you reflect on what a great season we are having. Let's file last nights game in the drawer as I am sure the team will and get back to winning ways in the next two very tough games. COYG
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Post by statotheblue on Jan 8, 2016 21:25:41 GMT 1
We lose one game from a winning position after winning 4 on the trot, we average very nearly two points a game and apparently some of our players aren't league 1 standard. Utterly unbelievable over the top ridiculous comments. Thank god the management team don't respond like some of you ! Totally agree I knew people would go over the top. I went straight to work after the game. Of course I heard all the usual rubbish. We had won 4 on the trott. We were playing one of the hardest games we will play this season. We should have won. We didn't. But how many times have we won when we shouldn't.The side have been amazing no we didn't play well near the end of last night.SOME BLAME THE MANAGER AND Nelson. One guy in the pub turned on Loft. The fact is we have had a amazing run. These players have scored more than anyone largely without our one man team according to some as recently as last season. Cody has largely been a bit part player this season. I of course was gutted but that's the great thing about football. Who would have thought it. Almost the same in some ways as Wembley all those years ago. Turn around happen we did it So has every team. It's how you move on. Do you start to panic and start turning on players and managers or do you say that if just one of those Bradley Dack chances gone in or Nelson saved a shot that he who have done 99.9% of the time we would have won or at very least got a point. Before the match a point would have been a good result. It is not that long ago we couldn't win away from home a rarely even scored. This team should have won they know it. We know it. But one thing everyone can be sure of they will be fired up in the next game and set out to put things right.
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Post by Greyfox on Jan 9, 2016 13:23:07 GMT 1
Certainly sorely disappointed with the result,particularly after leading as we did, their three goals can all be put down to our errors, the third coming when it did was devastating. Let us, however,not loose sight of who we were playing not so long ago Premiership and FA cup winners and a large club looking for a return of their status.As has been said were where we last season and prior,who are we, a young inexperienced team still showing big clubs (Coventry, Shef U, Wallsal,Wigan etc.) that we can mix it with the best, come on now have we forgotten max points from last four games, even in defeat we are still second in a very tough league This loss is hard to take but is part of the learning curve that the squad is going through, this surely is not the time to commit Hari Kari or drown in our tears but a time to get behind the squad and be supporters giving suport not whinging. We have lost before and come bouncing back and I see no reason why we can not do it again, as long as we keep the faith. COYG Yes, disappointing to lose from a wonderful position and I see no reason to panic either. However, to put Walsall and Wigan in such high esteem as Shef Utd and Coventry is pushing it a bit far. Gillingham should not feel in fear of any team, especially a Walsall or Wigan. It made me crinch how the television commentary made Wigan sound like Real Madrid. The Club itself is no bigger than Gillingham with about the same support in this Division. A multi million £ owner took them to the Premiership and FA Cup success, but nobody cared when they were relegated. A small Club who eventually got what it deserves, according to the Big Clubs in the Premier league. To think they are still getting massive parachute payments is also a massive disadvantage to other teams in Div 1. When we played Wigan at Wembley they barely took 11000 supporters. Gillingham took 50000. Gillingham are not inferior in any way, apart from in the television and other people's imagination.
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Post by evo on Jan 9, 2016 15:24:55 GMT 1
Garmston wasn't fouled for the opening goal, he wasn't strong enough! I think Garmston was poor defensively but I was surprised when the referee didn't blow for a foul on the first goal! I was waiting for the refs whistle as their striker booted it in! Terryjolleysboot - Cant believe what ive just seen watching the villa v wycombe match on tv. Exactly the same incident occurred where the WIGAN FORWARD JUMPED UP AND IN TO GARMSTON as in the Thursday match where no foul was given. In a carbon copy of that incident a penalty has just been given in favour of wycombe. So i still believe it was afoul and we were unlucky Thursday not to have come away with something. Ive re watched the game v Wigan and I thought Garmston did okay defensively he was very often facing a 2 on one situation on many occasions where Kellet was not picked up by Wright or Ehmer . So what do you do , Do you dive into stop Daniles and face a neat pace inside to kellet to carve you up or do you hang off to wait for cover ? he got a bit unlucky with Danials on two occasions where Danials got a rebound off Garmstons legs but apart from that he looked solid. This boy together with Jackson have been one of the reasons why we are where we are in the league they are young keen and inexperienced but they will only get better together with Dickenson in the future and will be real success stories
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Post by statotheblue on Jan 9, 2016 18:47:48 GMT 1
The Wigan lad was on the run and jumped for the ball. Today's game not only was the knee high connecting with the back. the Villa man also connected with a hand to the head.There was a difference while I think that if we were at home we could have had it called in our favour. The Wycombe call was stone wall penalty for me in both cases for me the correct call was made.If there was any doubt in the refs mind the hand contact would have swung it.
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Post by muppet on Jan 9, 2016 21:41:59 GMT 1
Seen them given both ways, but more than not in favour of the defender; just felt garmiston could have maybe been a tad stronger.
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