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Post by mooonlightgraham on Mar 17, 2024 14:20:32 GMT 1
What the hell happened to that team and spirit "of must win at all costs" we had for the Charlton game ?
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Post by donut on Mar 17, 2024 14:33:55 GMT 1
Muppet, you’re always a sensible voice, but who bought 3 forwards to the club in January? Who is averaging 1.35 PPG? Who has only presided over 8 league wins in charge? Who has seen our league position continue to fall? Let’s remember Grimsby are 4th bottom. We should be rolling them over. I’d argue with Bonne and Nichols, we’d have been more likely to take those chances, even though neither were setting it alight. You said Bonne was an amazing signing in the summer - not only has he been shitee, but he drove a car into a wall, acted like a prat to Charlton fans and gave our own fans the hand to the ear treatment after scoring a goal. I love Nicholls and I do think he would have scored one of the 2 we missed yesterday I do wish the club were more transparent about the structure. If you have a proper director of football and head scout, the "these aren't the managers players" argument goes out the window, because he doesn't choose the players that come in. All he can do is veto ones he absolutely doesn't want. But we've heard clemence suggest he has more of a say than that. Wish we had some clarity That would be useful along with knowing also how much money we have to invest properly in the squad. |
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Post by summerwell on Mar 17, 2024 14:49:22 GMT 1
Without wishing to re-ignite the perennial argument about PDPS I think it's clear the club ran on a policy of secrecy for decades and that must be hard to shake off. To be very honest though, I'm getting a bit tired of the Gallinsons' good ole boy, American schmaltz when nothing very substantial has changed in the lack of investment on the pitch.
It's all very well cosying up to the sycophants and shelling out for a few beers but when it appears our player wage bill has actually reduced over the last month or so and no real efforts have been made to address the obvious player deficiency I begin to question the level of commitment.
At first I thought the whispers about the underlying motivation being to do with real estate value not promotion up the football ladder were pure conspiracy theory Now, the continuing presence of our former chairman, the retention of the failed, and some might argue, unnecessary recruitment team and the absolute lack of urgency about our pathetic goalscoring record make me genuinely unsure of what the new owners objectives are.
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Post by donut on Mar 17, 2024 16:04:37 GMT 1
Without wishing to re-ignite the perennial argument about PDPS I think it's clear the club ran on a policy of secrecy for decades and that must be hard to shake off. To be very honest though, I'm getting a bit tired of the Gallinsons' good ole boy, American schmaltz when nothing very substantial has changed in the lack of investment on the pitch. It's all very well cosying up to the sycophants and shelling out for a few beers but when it appears our player wage bill has actually reduced over the last month or so and no real efforts have been made to address the obvious player deficiency I begin to question the level of commitment. At first I thought the whispers about the underlying motivation being to do with real estate value not promotion up the football ladder were pure conspiracy theory Now, the continuing presence of our former chairman, the retention of the failed, and some might argue, unnecessary recruitment team and the absolute lack of urgency about our pathetic goalscoring record make me genuinely unsure of what the new owners objectives are. That all has to be considered. There is still secrecy, secrecy means to me that there is something to hide. I do hope the Gallinsons are not the same as you know who. It won't be long before it becomes clear and if they re not they need to show it. They can hide in the US but they ll always have to come back sometime and I'd hate to see them abused. |
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Post by hessisgod on Mar 17, 2024 17:48:48 GMT 1
Hilarious comments about Bonne from stevo and grey fox
Slag him off as much as you like but he’s still 3rd top scorer and has the best minutes per goal at the club.
Who did your hero bring in who’s better? Why is he still playing Nadesan when he bought Walker to the club? Why does he keep dropping Mahoney when he’s got more goal involvements than anyone else at the club?
Why can Clemence only have a 34% win ratio? Why out of his paltry 8 wins in 23 games have some of the only wins come against Salford twice (20th), hopelessly out of form Notts County, 3rd bottom Colchester, bottom of the table Sutton.
You lot can keep defending him, but with his current record, we’ll be fighting relegation next season because we’re in relegation form.
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Post by donut on Mar 17, 2024 18:19:39 GMT 1
Hilarious comments about Bonne from stevo and grey fox Slag him off as much as you like but he’s still 3rd top scorer and has the best minutes per goal at the club. Who did your hero bring in who’s better? Why is he still playing Nadesan when he bought Walker to the club? Why does he keep dropping Mahoney when he’s got more goal involvements than anyone else at the club? Why can Clemence only have a 34% win ratio? Why out of his paltry 8 wins in 23 games have some of the only wins come against Salford twice (20th), hopelessly out of form Notts County, 3rd bottom Colchester, bottom of the table Sutton. You lot can keep defending him, but with his current record, we’ll be fighting relegation next season because we’re in relegation form. Interesting thoughts Hess which should be answered. Bonne scored a few but was never convincing and I believe had an attitude and needed to go, he's gone. Never sure about Lapslie BTW. Yes Clem has been playing Nadesan over Clarke and the newly acquired Walker. The answer there, I still don't believe Clem brought Walker to the club and I don't believe he wants him. 34 win ratio well not good but possibly understandable. We have had decent wins though and some decent draws, it's conversely been our inability to turnover lower sides though hasn't it? What is wrong with Nadesan I really don't know he obviously wants to do well and maybe that's why he's playing, but his performances have been awful never in a position to use his only real asset. I don't think, given proper backing that Clem will have us near relegation but can he bring success? |
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Post by hessisgod on Mar 17, 2024 18:45:01 GMT 1
Wishful thinking I’m afraid donut.
There is zero evidence that Clemence has improved us- we’ve gone backwards.
I just don’t understand what backing him would achieve, other than another wasted season.
I don’t do hope I’m afraid, I deal in reality.
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Post by donut on Mar 17, 2024 19:18:25 GMT 1
Wishful thinking I’m afraid donut. There is zero evidence that Clemence has improved us- we’ve gone backwards. I just don’t understand what backing him would achieve, other than another wasted season. I don’t do hope I’m afraid, I deal in reality. Well I think we both know Harris should have gone in the summer but he was given the benefit. It's possible we ll make the same mistake but with the right players someone will be able to slot in should it be needed. We have to let him have his head if he wants to stay and it is a risk but I cant see other options atm. There are other changes I would make first. |
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Post by stevolution on Mar 17, 2024 23:10:00 GMT 1
Bonne is wank and a bellsack to boot. Good riddance
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Post by stevolution on Mar 17, 2024 23:14:47 GMT 1
No idea why you think he's my hero. My recent posts make it pretty clear im unconvinced by recent decisions.
You sound like swans
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Post by donut on Mar 18, 2024 0:17:53 GMT 1
Talking of which, where are you Swans?
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Post by medwaystandgill on Mar 18, 2024 0:47:33 GMT 1
I went yesterday, and for the first time in ages, I just took it for what it was. Pretty much since Clems appointment, I've dismissed the thought of promotion or even playoffs. For the last few weeks, I've been certain our destiny is to end up somewhere between 9th and 12th place. I felt like I watched the match from a neutral point of view, almost..
The game was certainly open and the two teams fairly evenly matched, so as a contest I kind of enjoyed it, and it was almost a throw back to the 5 or 6 years before pdps took over in div 4. I went to matches when there were 2500 watching utter dross at times(although we did have Nicky Forster!), and I will still go.
The problem is now that 2500 supporters have bought into the American dream, many supporters like to be associated with success and the Galinsons coming in and talking about getting back to the championship has won a few over. However, the results of late and to a point performances are now really frustrating some, hence the booing yesterday and some supporters in e block having a word with Clem. The big issue the owners now have to realise is that if they want this new support and interest to continue, it does come with pressure, and they will have to face facts.
1. Clem looks unlikely to get us promoted this season or next. Sadly while he may have been the owners final choice most fans are not bothered by him and the only reason he doesn't get more grief is because he seems a nice enough bloke unlike a certain Mr Evans. Sadly like every US president he is ageing fastlt
2. Decent players and strikers cost money,not just positive soundbites and you need at least of them to bang the goals in.
3. The recruitment structure doesn't look like it is working,(letting fit strikers go and signing an injured one didnt make sense to me) any decent manager isn't going to be a yes man to the 3 amigos.
4. Home attendances are gradually falling, my block was made up of quite a few giveaways go schools and football groups yesterday and there were no queues in the food areas at all.
Running a football club isn't easy, but as well as getting commercial partners, you need to invest in the playing squad and really develop the youth setup.
If we stick with the current status quo then I can only see mid table anonymity at best in 2024/25 the fans forcing the owners hands on clem, and gates dropping back to pre Galinson levels.
We might sling 3 wins on the bounce together now to prove me wrong!
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Post by hessisgod on Mar 18, 2024 7:58:12 GMT 1
Bonne is wank and a bellsack to boot. Good riddance Hutton is more unpleasant as a character. |
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Post by terryjolleysboot on Mar 18, 2024 12:25:31 GMT 1
Without wishing to re-ignite the perennial argument about PDPS I think it's clear the club ran on a policy of secrecy for decades and that must be hard to shake off. To be very honest though, I'm getting a bit tired of the Gallinsons' good ole boy, American schmaltz when nothing very substantial has changed in the lack of investment on the pitch. It's all very well cosying up to the sycophants and shelling out for a few beers but when it appears our player wage bill has actually reduced over the last month or so and no real efforts have been made to address the obvious player deficiency I begin to question the level of commitment. At first I thought the whispers about the underlying motivation being to do with real estate value not promotion up the football ladder were pure conspiracy theory Now, the continuing presence of our former chairman, the retention of the failed, and some might argue, unnecessary recruitment team and the absolute lack of urgency about our pathetic goalscoring record make me genuinely unsure of what the new owners objectives are. Agree entirely I think the Americans are just letting Scally do what ever he likes and its notable its all about cost cutting. I am seriously worried the Americabs will suddenly realise they are not getting enough for their investment and we end up like Scunthorpe Utd or poor old Chester, maybe even Bury... |
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Post by donut on Mar 18, 2024 14:14:20 GMT 1
I have this horrible vision of Scally sitting in situ with just the same power laughing and smirking at all of us. Do I need help?
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