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Post by Greyfox on Oct 12, 2024 18:32:54 GMT 1
CAN’T SCORE GOALS!! SIMPLE.
Terrible referee, did the Gills players have to have their shirt pulled completely off before a foul was given.
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Post by donut on Oct 12, 2024 18:35:55 GMT 1
Clarke is absolutely terrible. We have zero threat down the left, Nolan doesn’t look look like a player that scored 17 goals last season. Nev works his socks off but the distribution isn’t good enough. Posh has a point but we have good enough players, Clarke has done well, hes not good to bad over night. Something is wrong and though we havent got the players we want, well on the pitch anyway, they are good enough and I've said it before, Lindsay would certainly lget a tune out of this lot. It has to be Bonner, we cant blame the buyers this time, presumably Brad ok d Dack and I dont know whos idea was Andrew's and Rowe was garbage before his injury. But we ve been through this before, look at the repeat mistakes Bonner is making, he thinks that they re not giving enough he s said it, that's why Nevitts not being supported, not the fact that hes playing utterly wrong tactics leaving Nevitt isolated. How will Bonner get himself out of this one? I do not think he can, I thought he had it covered, but its now ciear he doesnt. Out of his depth. Yes we have player problems but they re good enough now to get a tune out of, before they weren't. Lapslie got up my nose today as did Williams but I think they have a problem with Bonner. I'd like all 3 of them out frankly. |
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Post by donut on Oct 12, 2024 18:37:44 GMT 1
CAN’T SCORE GOALS!! SIMPLE. Terrible referee, did the Gills players have to have their shirt pulled completely off before a foul was given. They were utterly brazen GF but we cannot and must not hide behind it, its desperate. It shouldn't come down to that, yes the ref was poor, he thought 6 of one..... |
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Post by donut on Oct 12, 2024 18:45:01 GMT 1
COLEMAN? Give me strength, I dont remember a worse player in a Gills shirt I really dont know what all the fuss was about with him, should have got rid. Little holding on his own, a space in the team wasted.January will only be interesting if we spend money with proper research.
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Post by donut on Oct 12, 2024 19:50:33 GMT 1
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Post by hessisgod on Oct 12, 2024 20:26:48 GMT 1
Another one where possibly one player (and the same one) emerges with some credit, which is Little who is Hess like influence.
Other than that, absolute lack of leadership, cahones, commitment, fight and bottle. Accrington pressed us hard and we couldn’t cope. People bleating about the ref- nah. That is 100% down to us not being good enough. Morris messed up, Ehmer didn’t lead, Ogie had a 4/10 game, Coleman was anonymous, Nevitt is a waste of space, Nolan even more so, Gbode is showing again why no other manager thought he was up to it.
Loved Bonner’s interview after- controlled anger. He will get it right, I have no doubt. How long it’ll take, I’m less sure of. The last 3 managers have all spoken about a lack of character in the team and club. It needs fixing. Everyone is too nicey nicey and friendly. Fall out with each other, kick each other in training. Just grow some God damned balls.
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Post by donut on Oct 12, 2024 20:39:27 GMT 1
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Post by donut on Oct 12, 2024 20:41:16 GMT 1
You've got confidence in Bonner Hess which I just dont have. If it's the players then that's an even bigger problem, clear out in January will back Bonner if thats what they want to do or its curtains again.
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Post by summerwell on Oct 13, 2024 8:29:30 GMT 1
I'm, almost too weary to post, given the seemingly endless frustration of GFC performances and the familiar 'analysis' banging on about attitude, aptitude, effort, training.
Quite simply we do not have the quality in the squad to beat resolute but bang average teams. No creative drive from midfield and absolutely no threat in the box. Being brutally honest if you put the collective goalscoring 'talents' of Wylie, Nevitt, Gbode and Hawkins together you still wouldn't have an effective striker.
Bringing the latter two on to try and rescue a game is like sending the Home Guard onto the Normandy beaches.
I'm happy that the club has got its act together in terns of its relationship with the fans and that our owners are genuine, decent people who want the best for GFC. Personally , however, before we get ecstatic about the prospects for a new BM stand or more merchandise in the shop, I'd like to hear something definitive about our intentions to sign a proper strike force.
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Post by donut on Oct 13, 2024 8:42:05 GMT 1
SW I thought we had one. Nolan and Nevitt are both capable surely if you play to their strengths. Bonner last week said it wasnt effort but then says they weren't giving enough? Laziness often comes in when you re not confident its gonna work. It has to be Bonner whichever way you look at it. Frankly he wants to do a Clemence it seems now and keep the ball, this they cant do. We need to let the other teans have the ball and get them on the break that's how weve won matches. In that way you re maybe right, if he wants to keep the ball and impose ourselves, then we need better quality players cos our average lot cant do it. People say its league two, what do you expect? Other teams have done it but look at some of the players Notts and Donny have got...we havent so we need to do what Lindsay did last year. Ball playing and commanding from Bonner isnt gonna work even with Dack. We have to do it on the counter, it's obvious. But if he keeps trying we ll go down the table. Sometimes you cant polish a turd. You have to accept that or spend more money..they ve got to decide and quickly. Trouble is if you do what weve done first games, its tiring and teams eventually get through, but good managers can do it. You have to press from the front which is also tiring..let's face it even England cant do it! Some were blaming Max Ehmer yesterday but he had no chance once they cut us open in the middle...awful and they knew they could do it. He must arrest the slide now and play to our strengths trouble is I dont think Bonner can do it. January will be too late even if can get quality.
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Post by summerwell on Oct 13, 2024 8:59:32 GMT 1
What would you say are the demonstrable strengths of Nolan and Nevitt ?
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Post by swansgills888 on Oct 13, 2024 10:39:42 GMT 1
We should have signed John Marquis and kept Tom Nichols..that would have been a very clever industrious partership to get us out of this unforgiving basement league.
Nolan is without doubt a good player at this level but you need to play fast attacking football...his game is suited to teams like to teams like Accrington, Fleetwood or Morecambe because he has free rein to showcase or express himself. Not sure he showing those qualities at the Gills yet.
Nevitt is not a proven league 2 striker yet.
He lacks the qualities to lead the line himself. Marquis would have been the ideal player to lead the line if Bonner was going to play a lone striker.
We must remove Ogie, Ehmer and Coleman from first team squad...Jayden even though he scored a few goals is not up to scratch either. Have to be harsh if you want success.
We cannot keep playing individuals who have 1 decent game and then more often than not, then perform to their usual poor standard.
This has been the case with many players and why we are still stuck in the basement division. Ehmer is a great example of a player who has been at our club during the worst spells of recent history. He is still here and frankly it's a joke.
Wake Up And Smell The Coffee !!!
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Post by donut on Oct 13, 2024 11:04:19 GMT 1
What would you say are the demonstrable strengths of Nolan and Nevitt ? Well good question, We saw what Nolan does against Carlisle, he beats people and scores. He also has an excellent cross on him and delivers dead balls well. But now he doesnt. Nevitt strikes me as a Fox but you have to give him something to feed off. He also has a bit of pace and can finish 1 on 1, something that even Cody struggled with. We dont seem to be helping them do this. I wouldnt have thought it was rocket science to find a way round the way teams try to clamp us. Surely it involves getting rid of certain players, getting better and clever midfielders in or using our current ones better. If Bonner cant do it then he s not the right person and we must go back to the drawing board or we write off another season by Christmas. If Brad has the money available for quality or even if he doesnt Hess and Jackett need to go, the last of the Scally leaders and buddies. All they've done is take up money. |
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Post by hessisgod on Oct 13, 2024 11:57:47 GMT 1
I'm, almost too weary to post, given the seemingly endless frustration of GFC performances and the familiar 'analysis' banging on about attitude, aptitude, effort, training. Quite simply we do not have the quality in the squad to beat resolute but bang average teams. No creative drive from midfield and absolutely no threat in the box. Being brutally honest if you put the collective goalscoring 'talents' of Wylie, Nevitt, Gbode and Hawkins together you still wouldn't have an effective striker. Bringing the latter two on to try and rescue a game is like sending the Home Guard onto the Normandy beaches. I'm happy that the club has got its act together in terns of its relationship with the fans and that our owners are genuine, decent people who want the best for GFC. Personally , however, before we get ecstatic about the prospects for a new BM stand or more merchandise in the shop, I'd like to hear something definitive about our intentions to sign a proper strike force. We’ve been spoilt with great strikers over the years and none of the ones since possibly Oliver, maybe Eaves have been close. From the current lot, I get why they signed Nevitt - 16 goals in league two last season. The problem is, that’s the first time in his career he’s hit anything like that. Did we sign a one season flash in the pan on a big contract - it really looks like it. He’s a grafter, nothing more from what I’ve seen. Wylie seemed an odd signing to me and I said it at the time. If he’d been 19, given he had just torn it up at a lower level, I get it. He’s 25. He was bullied yesterday and fluffed a chance. Is there something there? I don’t know, but we’ve already got project players like Jayden Clarke, Shad Ogie, Dack given his injury record, and you’re not getting promoted with project players. Gbode has been around the first team since 16. He’s now 19. Harris didn’t rate him, Clemence didn’t rate him. He’s done ok at Hastings, but is yet to get a senior league goal or assist - what does that tell you? Hawkins was ok with Nichols, because Nichols did all his running. Could he score 10 over a 46 game season? Maybe but honestly I doubt it. Wakeling got 8 goals in a season at Swindon last year. That probably tells you enough. What really concerns me is that we’ve just given long-term contracts to Gbode off the back of nothing, Coleman and I’m guessing Nevitt, Nolan etc didn’t sign for peanuts or on 1 year deals. The scope for any manager to make huge squad changes is limited. We couldn’t offload Lapslie, because he’s not good enough and we’re paying him a reported 5k a week. Same with Hawkins - too high a salary, too long a contract. I’m all for protecting assets, but these guys aren’t assets and they’re draining resource without seriously contributing. |
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Post by Greyfox on Oct 13, 2024 13:25:35 GMT 1
After calming down since yesterday after that very disappointing and mistake filled match. Those lazy mistakes by the Gills can’t in reality be placed at Bonnor’s door. The players he picked let him down. They are better than that.
The match was scrappy and a typical lower league affair. Accrington Stanley came with a game plan, of spoiling the match, with time wasting, laying down injured at the slightest opportunity and rolling around trying to get bookings or sending off’s.
And, the Gills fell for it. Big time.
The Gills team, lost shape, looked lost at times and couldn’t rise above all the provocation. Poor passing and not one player to take the game by the scuff of the neck and take control.
Supporters have asked for two up front. Well, that only works if they put the chances away when created. Wylie missing that sitter didn’t help.
However, after going 1 up the match was there for the taking.
First, our ‘Goal keeper of the month’ makes a massive mistake and puts the defence in all sorts of trouble, then Clark clears the mistake straight back to them and in a flash they score. After that the team fell apart. No confidence, no idea how to break them down.
I do blame Bonnor for making a wholesale change of subs, that quite frankly didn’t make sense. They all ran round like headless chickens. Those two man mountains at the back for them, never lost a header, so Hawkings just got in the way, and would have been better left on the bench.
And, then they just run through and hit us on the break. The last minute goal by them, was a disastrous ending to a very disappointing afternoon.
Once again, how many times are the Gills going to let down the ever increasing attendances and optimism, only to watch the 71 away supporters jumping for joy. Horrible walk back to the car, feeling let down.
Two home defeats on the bounce, that won’t help the attendance against Newport a week on Tuesday.
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